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	<title>Comments on: Good at social media but not &#8216;experts&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: jeremy.dent</title>
		<link>http://blog.juicedigital.co.uk/2009/03/good-at-social-media-but-not-experts/comment-page-1/#comment-794</link>
		<dc:creator>jeremy.dent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll put you on our email list,  "coniIonible", if that's OK?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll put you on our email list,  &#8220;coniIonible&#8221;, if that&#8217;s OK?</p>
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		<title>By: coniIonible</title>
		<link>http://blog.juicedigital.co.uk/2009/03/good-at-social-media-but-not-experts/comment-page-1/#comment-698</link>
		<dc:creator>coniIonible</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 02:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great site this blog.juicedigital.co.uk and I am really pleased to see you have what I am actually looking for here and this this post is exactly what I am interested in. I shall be pleased to become a regular visitor :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great site this blog.juicedigital.co.uk and I am really pleased to see you have what I am actually looking for here and this this post is exactly what I am interested in. I shall be pleased to become a regular visitor <img src='http://blog.juicedigital.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Dent</title>
		<link>http://blog.juicedigital.co.uk/2009/03/good-at-social-media-but-not-experts/comment-page-1/#comment-578</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Dent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plain Tim, I'll stick to, then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plain Tim, I&#8217;ll stick to, then.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Newton</title>
		<link>http://blog.juicedigital.co.uk/2009/03/good-at-social-media-but-not-experts/comment-page-1/#comment-576</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Newton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Expert : a dictionary definition - a person who has extensive skill or knowledge in a particular field.

If you call yorself an expert then you're putting yourself up to be shot at, no? So why do it? We're not all rampant egotists in the agency business, are we?!

I always say 'I can tell you I'm funny, or I can make oyu laugh'. 

If I make a difference to your business by  my recommendations, and we all make money and hit our KPIs, then call me what you want - expert, guru, opinion leader, saviour, mentor, or just plain Tim, I don't care!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Expert : a dictionary definition - a person who has extensive skill or knowledge in a particular field.</p>
<p>If you call yorself an expert then you&#8217;re putting yourself up to be shot at, no? So why do it? We&#8217;re not all rampant egotists in the agency business, are we?!</p>
<p>I always say &#8216;I can tell you I&#8217;m funny, or I can make oyu laugh&#8217;. </p>
<p>If I make a difference to your business by  my recommendations, and we all make money and hit our KPIs, then call me what you want - expert, guru, opinion leader, saviour, mentor, or just plain Tim, I don&#8217;t care!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Dent</title>
		<link>http://blog.juicedigital.co.uk/2009/03/good-at-social-media-but-not-experts/comment-page-1/#comment-573</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Dent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, I think you're right and I was trying to explore the issue of self-proclaimed experts.

Join us at http://digitalpublicrelations.ning.com?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, I think you&#8217;re right and I was trying to explore the issue of self-proclaimed experts.</p>
<p>Join us at <a href="http://digitalpublicrelations.ning.com?" rel="nofollow">http://digitalpublicrelations.ning.com?</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark 'MKWeb' Hultgren</title>
		<link>http://blog.juicedigital.co.uk/2009/03/good-at-social-media-but-not-experts/comment-page-1/#comment-561</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark 'MKWeb' Hultgren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great topic, but who is to say they are an 'expert' in any software, service or media?

 What qualifies a person to the title of 'Expert'? 

Spending lots of time using it, or spending lots of time developing the media? I think there are plenty of 'Experts in Use and Abuse' and very few who actually understand the complete workings behind the scenes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great topic, but who is to say they are an &#8216;expert&#8217; in any software, service or media?</p>
<p> What qualifies a person to the title of &#8216;Expert&#8217;? </p>
<p>Spending lots of time using it, or spending lots of time developing the media? I think there are plenty of &#8216;Experts in Use and Abuse&#8217; and very few who actually understand the complete workings behind the scenes.</p>
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		<title>By: jeremy.dent</title>
		<link>http://blog.juicedigital.co.uk/2009/03/good-at-social-media-but-not-experts/comment-page-1/#comment-542</link>
		<dc:creator>jeremy.dent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Roger, for widening the discussion and mentioning the molehill. Your choice of 'experts' is also exemplary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Roger, for widening the discussion and mentioning the molehill. Your choice of &#8216;experts&#8217; is also exemplary.</p>
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		<title>By: RyanB</title>
		<link>http://blog.juicedigital.co.uk/2009/03/good-at-social-media-but-not-experts/comment-page-1/#comment-538</link>
		<dc:creator>RyanB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 04:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello fellow members&lt;a href="http://www.theenvironmentsite.org/forum/members/johnt.html?simple=1#aboutme" rel="nofollow"&gt;,&lt;/a&gt; I wanted to introduce myself. I&lt;a href="http://www.theenvironmentsite.org/forum/members/johnt.html?simple=1#aboutme" rel="nofollow"&gt;'&lt;/a&gt;m Kenneth.
I guess I should start participating instead of just reading the posts all the time&lt;a href="http://www.theenvironmentsite.org/forum/members/bamma.html?simple=1#aboutme" rel="nofollow"&gt;.&lt;/a&gt;
I thought about starting my own board but I&lt;a href="http://www.theenvironmentsite.org/forum/members/acaiburn.html?simple=1#aboutme" rel="nofollow"&gt;'&lt;/a&gt;m glad I found this one instead&lt;a href="http://www.viddler.com/explore/CreditRepairGuy" rel="nofollow"&gt;.&lt;/a&gt; Great Info! 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello fellow members<a href="http://www.theenvironmentsite.org/forum/members/johnt.html?simple=1#aboutme" rel="nofollow">,</a> I wanted to introduce myself. I<a href="http://www.theenvironmentsite.org/forum/members/johnt.html?simple=1#aboutme" rel="nofollow">&#8216;</a>m Kenneth.<br />
I guess I should start participating instead of just reading the posts all the time<a href="http://www.theenvironmentsite.org/forum/members/bamma.html?simple=1#aboutme" rel="nofollow">.</a><br />
I thought about starting my own board but I<a href="http://www.theenvironmentsite.org/forum/members/acaiburn.html?simple=1#aboutme" rel="nofollow">&#8216;</a>m glad I found this one instead<a href="http://www.viddler.com/explore/CreditRepairGuy" rel="nofollow">.</a> Great Info!<br />
See ya<a href="http://www.theenvironmentsite.org/forum/members/refinancinghomemortgage.html?simple=1#aboutme" rel="nofollow">.</a>.<a href="http://www.theenvironmentsite.org/forum/members/refinancinghomemortgage.html?simple=1#aboutme" rel="nofollow">.</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Kondrat</title>
		<link>http://blog.juicedigital.co.uk/2009/03/good-at-social-media-but-not-experts/comment-page-1/#comment-533</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Kondrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jeremy,

Interesting article and couldn't agree more with more than a few points you made, but we (socmed types) must also accept that businessmen wish to deal with those they feel secure working with e.g. an 'expert' if you will. This is why I feel the adjective gets so much air time on business cards, etc. 

Also Bobby makes a great point that relative knowledge is an important factor when being referred to as an expert.

Personally I think we spend way too much time on this topic and have made a mountain out of a mole hill. Many of my peers have agreed (privately) with me on this from Twitter and in emails. It seems to me to be only discussed by those within our industry, it is not in fact an issue for the vast vast majority of clients. Never once has anyone (client or otherwise) ever questioned my credentials, most know me before they meet me and often I get introduced as the 'expert'.

Finally, I seriously question what you were thinking when you referred to those two individuals as 'social media' experts. In fact I found it amusing. Isn't that like saying that the videographer is an expert broadcaster?

Sure these guys built tools that are great for social media professionals but they are hardly experts of social media. Social media is not a 'social platform' it is a media. What expertise or mastery have they shown outside of being associated with their ideas?

Long before I would have named them I would have picked someone like Jason Calacanis who's ability to generate massive marketing results from his use of social media or Mark Cuban who has done a great job getting access to innovative startups through social media, promoted his teams, etc.

These guys probably even aren't great examples but they were the first that came to my mind and these guys I believe 'get' social media far more than icons you mentioned.

What hammers home my point home best is just acknowledging how FB is making news for screwing up far more than they are making the news for their successes. 2009 is all about FB botch jobs not innovation.

Cheers
Roger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jeremy,</p>
<p>Interesting article and couldn&#8217;t agree more with more than a few points you made, but we (socmed types) must also accept that businessmen wish to deal with those they feel secure working with e.g. an &#8216;expert&#8217; if you will. This is why I feel the adjective gets so much air time on business cards, etc. </p>
<p>Also Bobby makes a great point that relative knowledge is an important factor when being referred to as an expert.</p>
<p>Personally I think we spend way too much time on this topic and have made a mountain out of a mole hill. Many of my peers have agreed (privately) with me on this from Twitter and in emails. It seems to me to be only discussed by those within our industry, it is not in fact an issue for the vast vast majority of clients. Never once has anyone (client or otherwise) ever questioned my credentials, most know me before they meet me and often I get introduced as the &#8216;expert&#8217;.</p>
<p>Finally, I seriously question what you were thinking when you referred to those two individuals as &#8217;social media&#8217; experts. In fact I found it amusing. Isn&#8217;t that like saying that the videographer is an expert broadcaster?</p>
<p>Sure these guys built tools that are great for social media professionals but they are hardly experts of social media. Social media is not a &#8217;social platform&#8217; it is a media. What expertise or mastery have they shown outside of being associated with their ideas?</p>
<p>Long before I would have named them I would have picked someone like Jason Calacanis who&#8217;s ability to generate massive marketing results from his use of social media or Mark Cuban who has done a great job getting access to innovative startups through social media, promoted his teams, etc.</p>
<p>These guys probably even aren&#8217;t great examples but they were the first that came to my mind and these guys I believe &#8216;get&#8217; social media far more than icons you mentioned.</p>
<p>What hammers home my point home best is just acknowledging how FB is making news for screwing up far more than they are making the news for their successes. 2009 is all about FB botch jobs not innovation.</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Roger</p>
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		<title>By: Good at social media but not &#8216;experts&#8217; &#124; Geoff Tucker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Good at social media but not &#8216;experts&#8217; &#124; Geoff Tucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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